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The only machine I have at the moment is a windows machine, and its perfectly fine. Theres no reason you have to buy into the whole, "You can only like one, Macs or Windows or Linux, or Ford, or Chev…

The only machine I have at the moment is a windows machine, and its perfectly fine. Theres no reason you have to buy into the whole, "You can only like one, Macs or Windows or Linux, or Ford, or Chevy " etc. I mean sure a whole lot of people are probably going to want me strung up after that comment, but seriously, who cares. If a windows PC does the job, great, sure it may not be as polished as the Mac OS and yes even I prefer XPSP2 to Vista most of the time, and sure, the pre-built machines from most companies don't look half as good as the Mac alternatives from Apple, but it doesn't matter. I personally know alot of people that would love to give Apple a shot, but don't because of the attitude of a lot of Mac owners toward people that have PCs. The whole elitist attitude is one of the reasons I can't even talk about Apple products with some of my friends. The mere mention of Apple brings on feelings of "Oh you mean those people that constantly insult my intelligence because I don't happen to use the same computer as they do. In summary, Macs are great, but Windows PCs do just fine too in alot of cases. Can't we all just get along? </Rant>

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Comment by Dan Palka on December 20, 2007 at 3:50pm
I love being an elitist, but many of my friends are Mac users too, including all of my roommates, so it works out in my favor!
Comment by James on December 20, 2007 at 3:59pm
I presently have three PCs at home. One is an HP running XP I bought to play PC games. The other is a custom-built PC from Cyberpower to play games faster -- it is dual boot XP and Vista. The third is a Dell I got from a friend, and it as Ubuntu Linux on it. They have very specific jobs and do them fine most of the time. However, they somehow they don't bring the computing experience together in a way which gets my creative juices flowing like my Macs do.

That attitude goes both ways I'm afraid. PC users think Mac users are snobs and our Macs our toys for noobs. As a Mac user, I really just feel sorry for PC users usually. It's not because I'm better than them. It's because many of them suffer with their PCs and it doesn't have to be that way.
Comment by Dan Palka on December 20, 2007 at 4:03pm
Yeah PC users tend to be equally elitist and/or just plain ignorant.

A Best Buy salesperson told my dad some regular ol' computer speakers wouldn't work with his Mac yesterday. Sigh...
Comment by Mike on December 20, 2007 at 4:04pm
Perhaps the PC>Mac attitude is different for areas? I really don't know any PC user that feels that way about Macs. I guess your right though, whenever you have competitors there will always be extremists in both camps.

As for being proud of being an elitist, I'm glad thats working out for you. But personally I never found being an elitist a good thing. I guess all I was trying to get at originally is that just because someone prefers using a different type of computer, theres no need to take the piss out of them or make fun of their choice.
Comment by Mike on December 20, 2007 at 4:08pm
Well I guess there is no escaping ignorance wherever you go. You do make a good point however that it definitely works both ways. I just made my point kinda one way as I never expected a horde of Mac Hating PC enthusiasts to pop up here :P
Comment by Dan Palka on December 20, 2007 at 4:13pm
When you deal with a large large number of PC users with random, inexplicable PC problems on a daily basis, you really do become more of an elitist.
Comment by BRCincy on December 20, 2007 at 5:17pm
I have a PC as well running XP Professional that I use to play PC games. Its an HP Laptop. Not a thing wrong with it, and it fills a role that needs to be filled.
Comment by Dan Palka on December 20, 2007 at 5:23pm
I understand that a lot of people have PCs that work just fine, but those tend to be us computer geeks.

The sheer number of regular users with PC problems is just mind boggling.
Comment by mcsey on December 20, 2007 at 5:56pm
So this is the confession thread, eh?

Ok, I've got... nothing. And quit looking at the media center PC and Xbox 360 in the corner! I swear they are on a different subnet.

Seriously though guys, the best tool for the job is always the best answer. If a PC works right for you and your users, great. In my experience, properly maintained PC systems require more attention than properly maintained Macs.

Having said that, I've used, built, maintained, all kinds of networks, and the pure Mac one I'm sitting on is the easiest, neatest, and /snicker/ coolest, I've ever built. It mostly just works. I spend about 25% of my time jiggling things on specific machines. That's not bad with well over a hundred retro Macs. I spend about 50% of my time doing Remote Desktop supplied support helping users learn to do knew things on their Macs.

The rest is all network admin stuff. Even a 500 user network has plenty of forgotten passwords and deleted users...

Wait we're we talking about PCs?

No, maintaining PCs is no fun. I get to help people create things on their Macs. They call me because they want to know how to do something, not because their PC doesn't work right. I've set up similar environments with PCs. It was far more difficult to maintain; however, all that doesn't mean that using a PC is a bad thing if it's the right tool for the job.

It just hardly ever is;)
Comment by Mike on December 20, 2007 at 9:06pm
Ah well. In future I'll keep my opinions to myself. No point starting arguments.

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